| Hey,   You know, just read your post and I believe you have made a nice 
point ...one i don't completely agree with but still one that should be 
taken into consideration...The authors that you mentioned , along with 
others like Angeline , Janine , Pink Rabbit(Barb)  , Selenay, Alyson, 
Heather, , Shadow ,Quin and many , many others haven't posted stories 
for quite awhile in the lists and they have been greatly missed , no doubt 
about it , but there is not much that the fans can do about it , by the 
end of the day it's the writers decision...I know i'm probably being naive 
about it , but when a writer decides to stop posting fics i always tend to 
think that it has something to do with Real Life getting in the way, or 
them losing interest in this particular ship or show or something like 
that...I never stop to wonder that it may have something to do with a 
negative response or something that has been done to them simply because i 
can't quite grasp the concept of someone not having something nice tosay 
about these authors...I just can't...When an author stops writing i 
usually think of Badbard ,  the one responsible by our lists names 
and who ended up deciding to give real life a try, or Gillian , one of our 
primary contributors who left because of her access dificulties and Ieven 
think of Pat, who once said that he felt he had explored the ship enough 
and decided to give other couples a try...I don't think the "worst" ,I 
only think it's their decision and it should be respected...And i think 
that where we disagree...   I don't think it is a matter of us being complacent or even taking 
the writers for granted...I think everybody who is a member of one of 
these lists is well aware that we wouldn't be here today , we wouldn't 
even have 800 members if it wasn't for the fantastic authors we have 
here...The truth is that most  of the people around here aren't 
really interested in discussing the ship or talking about the eps or 
anything like that...they're here to read the fics...That's why they 
subscribed , that's why they keep coming back...These lists are , when it 
comes to fics , the the biggest treasure of the W/B community ... A 
treasure yet to be discovered by many , but one that is cherished by a lot 
of people...When a story is posted here it is read not by one or two 
people , but by a couple hundered of people who for a few minutes are 
allowed to wander around in the author's mind, share their point of 
view... Through the story the author allows us , mere readers,  to 
see something that we always wanted but never quite knew and at leastto 
me that's damn special...Maybe we don't say it enough to the authors,we 
are , after all , 800 and of those few are the ones that end up responding 
, but that in no way means that we don't care about their story or we 
don't admire their work...If a story doesn't get a lot of response it 
doesn't mean it hasn't put a smile in the face of a lot of readers orthat 
it didn't stir any reaction inside of us, most of the times it only means 
that we're too lazy or in some cases even self-aware ...It's a problem, a 
really big one, but by the end of the day it is something that happens in 
every ship , in every list...   I said it a few posts ago and i will say it again, I take my B/W 
reading in a very serious way...For the past few months my contact with 
B/W have been almost minimal, the fics i did get to read had to be 
selected and printed by a friend who is now in charge of my net 
connection, but it still gets to me the same way...I know that this may 
seem very pathetic , but i have in my flat a stack pf printed Buffy/Will 
fics that i just read over and over again...Everytime i get a little time 
of at home, or when i'm on a break at the hospital i just take one 
fic and read it ...I've lost count of the times i've read Pik rabbit's 
fic, or Pat's or Kimber's...and everytime it feels like the first 
time...They still move me like they did the first time...By the end of the 
day i have for these authors and their work the same respect and 
admiration  i reserve for Machado de Assis or Jose de Alencar( two of 
my fav writers)...   And that is why i disagree with you , because while i admit thatí'm 
not being the best reader or even "fan" i don't think it's a matter of 
taking for granted...I get extemely happy everytime i get to seethe 
work of a new writer , but that doesn't mean i ever think of him/her as a 
substitute for one of the old ones...I think that would be diminishing the 
value of the older and the newer writers and i just don't agree with 
that...If you had seen my reaction when i combed through the archivesand 
found Love is an adventure, a B/W fic by Pat or the way i almost strangled 
my friend when the hd crashed and i realized that not only i lost my 
entire B/W fic collection but also unposted parts of Heather's The 
incredible adventures of two girls... you'd know that i don't ever take 
them for granted...That's why , for the past five days , i check www.altfic.com  around a hundred times, 
that's why when i see a new post from Pat i'll keep my fingers crossed 
whishing for it to be about B/W and that's why these lists and it's 
members will always hold a piece of my heart...  As for it becoming like Willowslash, i really don't see it...If 
you're talking about the original one(and i'm assuming you are , since the 
newer one is normal...), as far as i know that was something that gotout 
of control and stirred mostly by the moderators...I don't see anything 
like that happening here ...And about the Erin thing...you know, i think 
there was a problem involving a member and an author or something , it's 
in the archives, i think, i don't know if it was about Erin or who was 
envolved and i don't even remember what it was about...but i think Kim 
took care of  it at the time...I'm not sure..If you can point mea 
direction on the list archive or fill me in on what happened ....I can't 
honestly remember anything that may have led to her departure, but that 
may have something with the memory problems i'm having lately, but to 
think that something happened in here that has driven her away is a sad 
thought...   Well, I'm done now...Really sorry about the rambling and all, i just 
can't see a keyboard...And sorry if i sounded rude or anything and ifi 
didn't make a lot of sense...i never do...I just wanted to post a response 
from the other side... Tchau
   -------Mensagem original-------   
 Data: Sunday, October 
07, 2001 20:28:35  Assunto: 
::BuffyLovesWillow:: OT: Lost Authors and Fics  To: All List Gutter Members & Lurkers 
 Hey,
 I'm sure right about now you're wondering what I'm talking about 
Lost
 Authors and Fics. Okay, there are over 800 of us on the BWW list, 
when was
 the last time any of you saw stories from Angela, Tony McD, 
Roman, Kimly,
 ElizaLover, Chazzman, Kimber, Alex (who's having health 
problems), Keven
 Beckett, Anne-Lise, Carol, Erin ( who was driven off 
this list and those who
 did know who they are!). Well how many of you 
have given a second thought
 and emailed them or even said anything 
about it on the list?? That is a damn
 long list of authors missingin 
action on this list.
 I'm not talking about feedback for authors, we're 
not going to go into
 that. But the Gutter Dwellers and Members seem to 
have become very
 complacent about the authors here, as if there is 
alway going to be someone
 to take their place and write for you. They 
won't be. I suggest you think
 about that carefully unless you wantthis 
list to go the way of the original
 WillowSlash 
list.
 
 BillGopher
 Technical Support Representative
 Barnes 
& Noble.com
 Secaucus Call Center
 
 
 
 
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