Re: OT: Seeing Red Comments Counterpoint [SPOILER]

[Jolie Takacs <slyfox_kitkat@xxxxxxxxx>]

Phoen Dusk said:
Since not everyone has seen the episode yet...

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<<Also, Jolie... consider Prozac.>>

Excuse me, boy, but I do not need you telling me what
I need, ok. My life, not yours, you have no idea what
it is like to be me. So I love a TV show, I'm not the
only one, and hell I am not as obssessed as some
people out there are. I don't go out looking for
vampires and demons, I just love the show.

<<Tara dies from a gunshot wound. Lots of people have
a problem with this,
and I'm going to address all the complaints.
First, the homophobic aspect. Folks, listen up. Tara
is an innocent
bystander that gets killed when a bullet not meant for
her comes
streaking through a window and lodges itself in her
heart. This is not a
"gays are unnatural" comment; if they had wanted that,
they could have
made Tara a demon instead of the compassionate human
being she was
(overlooking the "blind to demons" spell she did).
Next, we have the angle of the fifth bullet that hits
Tara. Could it
have been a little high? Absolutely. Was the
trajectory wrong for the
angle of incident? Yup. Going from when she was
standing to the window,
it should have impacted the back of her skull. I'm
sure THAT would have
been much more pleasant to look at.
Then is the "Your shirt." comment. Her death is almost
instantaneous;
she has the last breath she inhaled available before
the shock to her
system shuts everything down. Not all deaths are drawn
out, where
someone is allowed to express how they feel before
finally giving up in
the arms of their loved ones. That is unrealistic and
has been
romanticized by the movie industry for years. I
actually applaud Joss
for not giving in to it - like he did with Faith being
stabbed in the
stomach.>>>

This show wasn't supposed to be about REAL life. It
was fantasy..we see too much gun violence everyday. 
Yes, Tara is an innocent, but it is cliched that the
gay character gets killed off (perfect example Larry).
And it may not be homophobic, but it is a slap in the
face of the community.


<<Did ME do a bad thing in killing Tara? No.>>

I do think it was a bad thing. I mean who was there
for Buffy when she needed a friend, Tara. Why
couldn't Buffy go to Willow...how can you go to
someone who is A.) Dealing with magical withdraw and
trying to stay away from it. B.) Ripped you out of
heaven. And C.) Has done a good job of distancing
herself from Buffy. Tara was there for Dawn when
Willow and Buffy weren't.. Hell Tara was even there
for Anya during Hells Bells(before the break up of
X/A).

<< Is it justified? No. Gun
violence never is. Other than the Initiative (who
mostly used tranqs and
high-powered tasers), name the last villian or group
therein to actually
have hardware on BtVS... oh, wait, forgot - Ethan
Rayne in "Band Candy."
And Ripper ended up with the gun. A good example is
actually Seth Green
as Scott Evil in the first Austin Powers movie. "Dad,
I'll go to my
room, get my gun, and shoot them in the head." Joss
and Co. have these
fantastic villains with super powers so you tend to
forget about the
real world dangers. Think to "The Zeppo;" Xander has
to deal with a bomb
in the basement of the school while the rest of the
Scoobs battle the
Hellmouth critter above. Which was the greater threat?
The bomb; had it
gone off, the baby would have really been free. Of
course, they end up
blowing the school to bits anyway, but that's another
story.>>

And school bombings is just so in now adays...yeah we
live that every day too.

<<Spike tries to rape Buffy. Was the camera work kind
of hard to follow?
Absolutely. If you know someone who has been forcibly
raped (passive
rape is STILL rape, don't think otherwise), ask them
what it felt like,
then show them the scene. Ask them if it compares. The
answer should
scare you.>>

The rape scene was very well done, that is my only
comment on that.

Buffy does deserve an Emmy, but not for this season.

Jolie

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