[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: Savage, primal, power
--- In buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Exiled <exiled@r...> wrote:
 
Define precivilization, because most of the Goddess/Primal Woman 
archetypes
were found in the ruins of socially advanced societies. (Source: 
Stone,
Johnson) 
Also why did you use the term ³savage² when you are referring to 
the Primal?
My opinion is that we can¹t really pin-point exactly when the 
Slayer was
made or from what she was made.  Supernatural energy or the 
essence of a
demon. If she was made from the essence of a demon then she could 
be
considered ³self-aware² and thus the Slayer could be a separate 
entity.  If
she is made of supernatural energy, *if* one considers it ³just² 
energy,
like plugging into an electrical outlet, then the Slayer would be 
no more
self-aware than my blender. In my opinion what was actually shown 
on the
screen left interpretation open to the imaginations of the 
viewers. Since
viewers and readers bring their own histories to a story its 
impossible to
say there are hard core *facts* and that other opinions aren¹t 
valid.
Also a lot of pre-Christian societies worshipped the woman 
archetypes
because she could give birth, she could bleed and not die, she was 
a
nurturer, not a warrior and not wild. While in other societies she 
fought
and hunted alongside her mate and was more than the protector of 
the young.
We are talking about over 30,000 years of history here folks, in 
comparison
Christianity is ONLY between 2 and 5 thousand years old depending 
on the
source.  So again what exactly is ³Pre-Civilization?² (Source: 
Stone,
Johnson, Eisler)
To add, let's look at that figure Giles kept in the library, Kali, 
and how she compares to the Slayer.  Kali was the Destroyer, Drinker 
of Souls, always with weapons in her hands, and the Dancer (Buffy 
and Faith had some well remembered dances).  She was the berzerker 
goddess who killed her lover, who rose again.  She also happened to 
be the protector of homes and children.
The main reason I like Primal!Buffy, though, is she's made for some 
great stories, especially in this ship.
E
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> 
Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/RoMolB/TM
--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> 
Willow: "It's a good fight, Buffy, and I want in."
Buffy:  "I kinda love you."
                     'Choices'
Community email addresses:
     Post message: buffywantswillow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Subscribe:    buffywantswillow-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     Unsubscribe:  buffywantswillow-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
     List owner:   buffywantswillow-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Shortcut URL to this page:
     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buffywantswillow
Official archive for the list:
     http://www.ikoly.com/fanfic
Other links to Buffy/Willow fics:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buffywantswillow/links  
Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/buffywantswillow/
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
   buffywantswillow-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
   http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
This is an archive of the eGroups/YahooGroups group "BuffyWantsWillow".
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" are trademarks and (c) 20th Century Fox Television and its related entities. This website, its operators and any content on this site relating to "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" are not authorized by Fox.
No money is being made with this website.